The Intersection of Cypherpunk & Homesteading

I see this cool synergy happening between cypherpunk culture and land-based living. I am curious about it. What are some shared themes tweenst these two camps? Are rural cypherpunks different than their urban counterparts? If so, in what ways are they different? What can homesteaders learn from the crypto-anarchist movement, and vice versa? Rural man is known to remain distant from the trappings of the computer revolution – a characterization that may be changing in new and unexpected ways…

This is just an open inquiry that I think deserves consideration because I think it represents a powerful intersection of individuals and subculture within the greater scope of a counterculture/second realm/parallel structure. Probably will become part of an article on my instance in the not too distant future.

It certainly is interesting, as me and many of my closest compatriots (Jamin Biconik, the hardware hacker, permaculture farmer being one) fit this bill. Thanks for posing the question explicitly.

In short, the need to be close together physically is less now with advancing technology. So, if we’re going to have dispersed homesteads, and we know all the dirty deeds of the surveillance states, it only makes sense for some us to end up here.

I think Jamin was even into cypherpunk before homesteading.

Further, knowing how easily a wedding can be drone bombed, etc. makes it clear that EVERY Second Realmer, self-liberator, etc. to be in one physical area is beyond retarded. Bringing up again the need for dispersing, and for solid technology that isn’t ratting us out.

That, and even though I would truly love nothing more than to throw (most of) my electronics into a river, this technological world is what it is. Remaining ignorant of it is more of a threat almost.

I could go on, but that’s a good start. Appreciate this forum greatly!

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I find it wonderful how seamlessly these two cultures complement each other. If privacy is the power to selectively reveal oneself to the world, then living away from the sight of surveillance cameras and/or oppressive government structures seems like a more advantageous position to be in.

The most striking similarity I see is the solidarity within these communities. I’ve never heard about a competitive cypherpunk or about a competitive homesteader (though I must admit that the idea of a competitive homesteader is incredibly amusing to me). Rather they seek to help those who are genuinely interested. Also both of these groups prosper greatly from mutual exchange of knowledge and skills, which is a win-win situation.

This topic really gets the gears turning for me, looking forward to your article!

@vonu Homesteads all over the place exist in a decentralized arrangement. That’s their natural state, a thorn in the ass of empire’s central planners. I think that’s one reason why cypherpunk aligns so well with rural homesteading: it is inherently anti-centralization, a challenging current to control.

@Rarog Your point about how the two subcultures prosper greatly from mutual exchange of knowledge, skills, and resources is essential to understanding how well cpunx and hsteaders go together. Such a terrific point.

One mismatch I see between the two groups is that cypherpunks may be more inclined to consumerism than homesteaders? Acquiring the latest hardware, software, etc… but at the same time I see both hsteaders and cpunx deeply devoted to repairing and repurposing things.

@Rarog @vonu If you could integrate some cypherpunk elements into your homestead/offgrid lifestyles, what might that look like?

(hack land II was written in a fever last nite… enjoy)

Your article is brilliant as ever, you brought forward a lot of excellent ideas!

This post is also really interesting

I agree, although I think it’s a little bit different kind of consumerism than we see everywhere in today’s world. It’s not about consuming for the sake of consuming, and it’s certainly not about the status associated with having the new shiny stuff.

As I see it, it’s more about having the competitive edge over your adversaries and having the tools to accomplish your goals.

Don’t take what I just wrote as an encouragement of consumerism. We shouldn’t forget that we can repair a lot of stuff on our own, instead of throwing it away. Anna’s Archive and the rest of the internet are full of manuals and guides that can help you repair basically anything you need to have repaired.

I really like the minimalist aspect of cypherpunk. The idea being less software/hardware equals less potential risk to you, your safety and/or privacy.

Trying to apply this to my life has proven great, although I could (and probably should) take it even further than I already have.

It would be nice to be able to pay for beef and milk from my local farmer with crypto, however it’s really rare to find someone who accepts crypto in the countryside where I live. I hope that will change in the near future.

This is a good point, and I agree. The tendency to repair & repurpose equipment is another common feature shared between hsteadrs and cpunx. I know fellow homesteaders that rarely purchase new equipment and will try everything to salvage, repair, and repurpose any item within reason. I love it, personally. It’s so satisfying to revive some old electronic in a similar way it is to incorporate some old irregular lumber into a woodworking project.

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privacy is of course essential for cpunks and hmstedrs! this is probably one the most glaring qualities about the two camps.

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I’ve seen several consumerist homesteaders on youtube. They have 1000 mason jars full of 365 different ferments and canned goods. They say they’re “prepping”.

For sure, all we want is to be left alone!

I wonder if there are ways for cypherpunks to realize projects outside the internet without painting a target on their back so to speak? Apart from occasional conferences and meetups I’ve only seen digital forms of resistance (all of that is incredibly important no doubt)

Although I find it incredibly silly, I don’t think it’s a big opportunity cost compared to what most people in consumer cultures spend their money on. But that might be just my opinion, I usually don’t judge these kinds of things